Exploring Life

Geocaching, geocoins and the many roads of life.

This is made up of stories from my caching and my reviewing.  It is a collection of those along with comments and thoughts.  Photos, and maps of some adventures and lists of some of the oldest caches.

Opencaching.com at one year

We stand at a year.  One year of opencaching.com.  Where did it come from? What is its status? and were are we going?  I thought I would take the time to look at it.

Where did it come from?

There are a few thoughts, a few ideas as to why it came into being.  Why would a for profit company make a free service.  Well to sell more GPS units.   The general consensus is that they were upset in Groundspeaks Geomate Jr.  A small device with no purpose but to push you to caches that were preloaded (later they added a device where you could add more caches to it).  In one way I can see the worry with Garmin.  Groundspeak is not a competitor.  Even though it was on the fringe, would it be the end.  What if groundspeak pushed for another, larger one.  I am sure it was a scary thought, for Garmin, Magellen, and other companies. Would there be another competitor. 

There were rumblings at Groundspeak when the Garmin Chirp (tm) showed up.  I know it annoyed Jeremy and a few others.  They had tossed the idea of something similar to them a while ago.  So having a similar product pop up was annoying.  However it was the fact that something that was really made for geocaching, was kept behind the scenes and quiet.  Who knows the reasoning, or who had the idea first, but it was odd that it was a surprise that it

Some suggest that because almost all hand held units are Garmin in geocaching circles that they jumped in to grab the market.  To keep a hold of it.  Perhaps, however there is a flaw in that.  Almost every person I know that owns a handheld GPS either has cached once or twice with it or not at all.  Cachers are a very small number.  Tens of thousands of units are sold every year.  Hunters, fisherman, back country enthusiasts, search and rescue, ATVers, scouts and governments buy those units.  Many decide to try this out, but it is not the main purpose of the their purchase.   However Garmin may have thought it a market to slip into.  Long term.

Lackeys and volunteers were slightly worried.  What would you think?  A company with $3.5 billion in sales, deciding that they want to compete.  Groundspeak does not release its number, however I am guessing they would be happy with 1% of that.

Then the name of the new site showed up.  Opencaching.com  They have said online that they did not steal the name.  That is true.  The name, and website were available, and they grabbed it. They also say they were in discussion with the opencaching network.  I do not believe that any of the managers of the websites ever said they were contacted.  In fact most stated that they were never contacted, and they were surprised.  So though not flat out wrong and prohibited, it did slap the faces of those other websites. 

Ironically, it was the people that support and push the other websites that wanted another site.  The forum discussions on those sites were not pleased in the theft or slap in the face of the Opencaching network.

What would Garmin do?  What would they come up with? A dozen different ideas were pouring out.  How would it be managed?  And would it be better?

The arrival of Opencaching.com

You could not believe the collective sigh of relief that I heard from Groundspeak employees and volunteers, when the site was released.   The money that could have been dumped into it, did not appear to have been spent.  Things were buggy, problems filled the site.  Enough that many people who went to visit, did not want to return.

Bugs are expected.  Like every site we did expect the rough edges.  However there were a number of bugs, some of them serious that should not have been in place.   These were only small issues compared to the core of the site. 

There was no review.    So a number of horrible caches appeared.  Caches in wilderness areas, forests and parks where they are not allowed, caches rejected on geocaching.com for many other reasons.  All found their way to the opencaching.com site.  To be fair, the fast majority were fine, but many were listed that should not have been.

Eventually they added peer reviewing to the site.  Then you are at the mercy of others.  Did you follow the process?  I have seen caches next to others, commercial, and other problems.  Worse people were denying things for dumb reasons.  People could not get some caches listed because someone just said no.  That happens on the geocaching.com site.  A reviewer may say no, but they are to point out the reasons, and you have an appeal.  Here it seemed final.  Some were trying to do their best in reviewing the caches, and yet some were just tossing their thoughts, without event thinking.

On another front there are many that love caching, that have been removed from the geocaching.com site with bans or suspensions.  Forums turned into how evil and horrible geocaching.com was, and bickering about the other site.  This was going to be the future.

Yet there was nothing new.  Tweaks of course.  The little radar for awesomeness, terrain, difficulty and size.  However still the same type of site, in fact there are fewer cache types.  Of course there are no Wherigo or Earthcaches as those are property of Groundspeak and GSA.  Multi, Puzzle, and Traditional, eventually they added Virtual.  There are no events yet.  When you make your cache page, you cannot place photos, or in your logs.

Caches

Ultimately what counts is the caches and their visits.  Well there are caches.  I have mentioned before there just are not many unique caches.  It has been a year, and there currently are about 19,500 caches.  If we look at caches that are unique only to geocaching.com.  To compare there are are over 300,000 more active caches this year than last.  That does not count archived caches from both sites, but it gives you an idea of the numbers between the two.

There were a few large jumps in caches.  Obviously there was a jump in the first two months.  There were 8000 that were added during that period. Another month during a contest about 4000 were added. So during the other nine months there were 8000 caches listed.

Total numbers of caches at opencaching.com

Some state those number are good, compared to when geocaching started.  Geocaching had 7,000 after the first year, so nearly 20,000 caches was good. Yet if you break out the unique caches, caches that are only on that website, you have 1500.  Not a really great number. 

I have one cache there, yet it is in the center of a populous area.  I created it on the first week.  Yet in that entire time I have had one log there.  It has been disappointing.  I have heard that from a number of others. We place caches to be found, really we place them to be logged.  If there are no logs it is disappointing. 

Another issues is people placing caches on multiple sites is that you can ignore those that are not "important".  I know of one that is gone, or has been gone for a while.  Yet still it is listed on the site.  Mostly because there are not people logging dnf's and the owner just ignores it.   That could pose an issue in the future.

Where are we going?

To be honest I don't know.  Geocaching.com will continue to move forward.  Just like it always has.  What happens to Opencaching is more difficult to figure out.   How committed are the people pushing the Garmin site?  How much money do they put into it. Technically it is not very expensive.  Server space that they already own, bandwidth, a programmer or two, free time from a marketing person. No one knows the goals or timeframe they have.

It needs to find a niche.  What that is I don't know. It can't be the place of anti-Groundspeak.  It is like being anti-Microsoft.  You have to have something that helps you stand out.  Or you just have people arguing in the corner, crying about how evil the other guy is.   Trying to find their future is tricky.

At the moment I would say they are being left behind. They have some interesting ideas, they have tried a number of different things, but eventually they need to find something that makes them stand out. They need to grow, and be unique, but I don't see that right now.

Only the future will tell.

New Geocoin Up for sale

 Well after a few months of work, emailing and taking my time my first coin is moving into the production circle. I gor my first three samples this week, and here they are.

  Geocoins

The coins are 1/2" thick and 1-3/4" in diameter, and will have a custome icon.

The front is the scene of Rainbow bridge.  Rainbow bridge is a National Mounument that is considered sacred to the native Americans, and is not visited by many people because of how remote it is.  

The back is from a photo I took at Potter's ponds this last year.  That is the location of the first cache in Utah. The 29th oldest, and one of three for the month of August that can be used for the Jasmer challenge.

At the moment I am taking pre-orders, and reservations.

In eight days I will place the order for them. If you email me at blue.rajah.ut @ gmail.com and let me know if you want to preorder, or reserve a coin.  I will send you an email with a paypal link to pay.  If you plan on catching me at an event, tell me and I will do what I can to get it to you to save the $3 shipping (for 1-2 coins - stateside shipping).

The only ones up for sale will be the nickel and the brass ones. Sorry, I will me making a few of the copper ones, for me.  For me to trade, gifts, family, etc.

I will be placing the order right after thanksgiving. Then 3-4 weeks I will have them (hopefully sooner) and get them all out. So they should be in your hands just before christmas to new years. sometime in that window.

The coin costs $11

Please email me  what coins you want (Brass, Nickle), your mailing address ,  and how many you would like.  If there are any questions I will get back with you.  For those preordering I will email you a paypal invoice for you to pay off of, and so i have record to be able to mail them out.

Thanks for supporting me in the project, and I hope you like them.

 

***edited to remove preorder and reserved info- people were still trying to do that and they are not available that way anymore***

 

Groundspeak Android App - Part 1 - Finding A Cache.

I thought I would do another update with the geocaching app and kind of do a step through to help people.

 

This is the startup screen. It is only online for a few seconds.

Screen #2 - The start screen

Start Screen

On the start screen there are a number of options.  The first thing that you should do is click the button on the top.  (See screen #2) The one here listed as "Switch User"  I do not remember if there is another option if no one is ever put in. You will notice that when you are logged in you have your icon from geocaching.com, player name, find count and if you are a premium member.

On this page you see a number of options. (see screen #2 again)  Of these we will only deal with the "Find Nearby caches" but first, select your menu button.  Two options will pop up "Settings" and "Help"  select the Settings button.

 

Screen #3 - Settings

Settings

On the settings screen you can set it up to be able to modify your hunts for caches. 

Basic/Advanced

The top one has two menu options. Basic and Advanced.  When you do a search and have Basic selected, it will show only the traditional caches in the area.  If you have Advanced everything will show up.  This means it will include Letterbox, puzzle, multi-caches, events, etc.  Everything that appears on a geocaching website will be on your screen

Show All/Hide Finds

The next option down is what will take off caches that you have already found.  Sometimes you may not want to see the caches that you have already found.  Removing them from your search list

Units

This lets you change things from Imperial (miles/feet) to metric (kilometers.meters)

Database Location

This will determine where the database is located on the phone or on the SD card.

Screen #4 - The cache lis

Now our actual search.  If we go back to Screen #2 above is select the Find Nearby Caches.  A list of caches will pop up.

This lets you know a number of things about the caches.  The icon for the type of caches.  The check-mark that is show points out that I have found the cache before.   You also see the name, GC#, Direction, Distance Favorite Points, if there are trackables, distance, and difficulty/terrain.

You can select a cache here.

Screen #5 - Cache PageThis screen adds many more options, and shows the same info as the previous screen, however there is more.  This screen adds The date the cache was placed, the last find, and who placed it.

Some more options

Navigate to Geocache

I will cover that in just a minute.

Description

This will give you all the info that is on the cache page.

Recent Logs

This will show you some of the last logs, and there is a spot on the bottom of the page to be able to load more caches logs than you can see.

Hint

Really you want to see a hint?

Attributes

You can get a list of attributes for the cache if the cache owner has selected some.

Inventory

This will tell you if there are any travel bugs or geocoins in the cache and what they are.   You can actually select those and get more information about them.

Post a Log/Field Note

I will deal with this on a future entry.

Add to favorites

Give the cache a favorite point if you like it.

Save to offline list.

This lets you save a cache to a list of caches so that you can review them offline.

Remove from offline list.

If it was on a list and now you want to take it off.

Find nearby Geocaches

This one lets you do a new search, centered from the cache you are at now

View on Geocaching.com

Takes you to the website

View on External Map

You can go to another map and check the cache.

Screen #6Now lets look at the map from Navigating to Geocaching.  The map will show you how to get to the cache.  There is a menu at the bottom. 

The compass will show a compass pointing to the cache. Adding a waypoint will let you select another location to go to, manually. 

The Map mode will let you switch to a street view and a Satellite view.

Another search button, and another button that takes you to the settings.

Well that is it for now.

Geocoin time

Well after I made a coin a few years ago I decided it was time for round two.  I have been looking for places for some time, and decided that it was time to dive in.

 

My new coin.

I got these back today after I spent my time working on them.  Hopefully I will have a sample soon. Needless to say I am exited.

i wanted to find two things, both deal with Utah.  Everyone does delicate arch.  So I thought I would use Rainbow Bridge.  A really cool monument in the desert.  The back came to me after a lot of thought.  I had taken a picture at the location of Potter's Ponds.  So I decided to use that photo for the back, and highlight the cache.

 

How to annoy your geocache reviewer

This is not meant to be a "how to" but look at how to avoid annoying your reviewer. Some of the things that people do have no effect on me being annoyed, other things drive me insane.  Remember that if you place one cache to be reviewed, that you are only one of 10-60 that are there for me to look at in a single day.

The annoying list - the top 10 for me

10 - You Cheat

I used to like to do puzzle caches, they were fun, and it was great to be able to say, "Yep I found that horribly evil cache and solved the puzzle"  When people found out that I was the reviewer I got a few messages second hand where people accused me of cheating to solve the puzzle.  lt is soo hard, and I am so dumb, that I could not solve it on my own.

This took much of the fun of solving a puzzle away from me.  I have a number of them that i have solved, and I just drive by them.  Someday I will visit them, but I don't know when.

Another variation is that I told someone where the cache was.  I have never told anyone and don't plan that I ever will.  I have been offered money, and steaks, all in jest at events for answers, but I have never given them out.

9 - I was driving through Utah from Florida, and thought this spot looked good for a cache.

Oh crap, how do I deal with this.  When I ask about maintenance often I will get the following answer "I will just archive it when there are problems"  That is when I know I am in trouble.  That is not how the system works, and why we don't want a vacation caches.  It is actually a non-maintenance plan.

I have had a few situations where it was even worse.  Here is a nice exchange

"Yes I will have TomDick&Harry maintain it for me" - them

"Sorry you are within 528' of another cache" -me

"I can't move it, i live a long ways away, please list it, I will not let it happen again." them

"Why can't the person that will be maintaining it for you? - me

"They dont live near there either." - Them

"Sorry, if no one is nearby to move it then you obviously have no maintainer" - me

how can it be worse?

"But I have three travel bugs in there, they will be lost forever." - Them

>>Facepalm<<

8 - I have 20/30/40+ caches to list tomorrow morning - Here they are

It does not happen often but once and a while I get a pile of caches that the cache owner need to be listed for an event, or something special. Usually that "something special" is within 12 hours.  Note to cacher:  It takes time, and you are one cacher out of a dozen or more.  Why should others wait because of you.  Give it some time, plan ahead.

I have also had a cache that needed to be listed by a certain date.  Event caches are that way, or a cache for an event or a birthday, or anniversary.   Too often people don't check their emails when there were problems.  One sent me mean emails when I had not listed their cache, and they had not noticed until right before.  They had not seen my email with problems, did not check if it was listed, and never addressed problems, until it was too late to hit the deadline.

You may also consider your event.  Some like to wait until two weeks before to pop it on the schedule.  Then if I take the weekend to get back to reviewing, then there is a problem with the cache page, you can be too late to get it listed.

7 - I must be the reviewers best friend - At all costs

Don't call me, phone me, appear on my doorstep (except to find the cache there).  I like people, and I like caching.  Yet there are boundaries.  When I am teaching my scouts I dont want my scouts be caching time, or church to be caching time, shopping for grocieries to be caching time, or my family time to be caching.. wait, actually i do want that last one. 

Don't become my friend on every social media, and interject caching into everything.  Sometimes a picture of me and my Dog is just that, for fun.  If I am at dinner, don't ask my if that is a cache container at my plate (it is a glass).  If I am showing a picture of a scout troop, it is most likely not a cache run.  I enjoy talking caching when it is appropriate.  I also like photography, and really enjoy when they naturally go together.  However it is creepy when you turn everything into caching.

Don't read every log I ever made, check every geocaching.com photo, or just follow me around town.  Restraining orders are a pain to get.

6 - Get mad about hidden waypoints, or premium caches, or saturation

I did not place the multi-cache that fills the entire park, or make it a premium cache that you were not aware was there.  I did not place your cache 300' from one that is clearly marked.  I feel bad when that happens, I really do.  Especially to new people.  (I do however laugh mercilessly if it happens to Cold1) However there are rules in place.  I like to review.  If I just listed everything I got I would not be revieweing for long, groundspeak would find someone else.

5 - A long list of coords to check

Ok, you may not know this.  But when I need to check coords for hidden waypoints for others I have to make a cache page. I go through the process like you.  It may not take time to do 1 or 2.  But twenty is a pain in the butt.  Think of how long it takes for youj to make a cache page.  I do not have some magic program that makes them for me. Hmmmmm there is an idea.  This may not seem obvious, but it does annoy me.

Simple way to fix a test cache page is to label it that you are checking coords.  In the additional waypoints that you can add all the other coords that you want to check.  It makes it very simple for me.

4 - The commercial or agenda cache

I don't want to go into the argument of if they are ok or not.  Everyone has an agendas are dear to peoples hearts. Caches about breast cancer, veterans, Senator Charles, President Willy, puppy farms, gun control, or abortion are all troubled.  I don't like arguing the point.  Sometimes I support your agenda, but it is not the place. 

Note: Some get mad if the cache is accused of being an egenda, and we ask you to remove some text to make it ok.  Usually that anger makes it clear that it is an agenda.  For most non agenda caches, asking a needed change would not cause people to get upset.

3 - Complaining about powertrails, micros, hard caches, dangerous, etc.

I dont approve caches, I publish them.  I dont determine that power trails are cool, though I do enjoy them.  If you hate those go to the forums and start the argument.  Note the forum schedule for new complaint threads:

  • Monday -  Micros
  • Tuesday - Reviewers suck
  • Wednesday - Power Trails
  • Thursday - Groundspeak sucks
  • Friday - Someone Deleted my Log or stole my travel bug
  • Saturday - your choice
  • Sunday - Bring back virtuals

If a cache is by a dumpster, dont go find it.  If the cache is by a stockyard, or rendering plant and the area smells bad, then drive away.  If it is on a cliff, under a rattlesnake, or hiddeen under broken glass and crack needles, avoid it.  I am not forcing you to get the cache. Complaining to me does little good.

2 - Offensive language

Calling me a whore, slut, or other language that is far more offensive does not make me love you more.  I am not more likely to take your side on that argument, or another argument in the future.  When I archive your cache because it has been ignored, disabled for eight months, or post a warning note, it does you no good to get mad. 

Sometimes I do make a mistake, or jump the gun on an archival.  A friendly email may make me see it from another angle, and angry email just makes me move on to the next email.  Or perhaps I am just testing you to see if you are paying attention, yes, I am sure that is it.

1 - The "I am the only person in the world" syndrome.

Reviewers do not take the job because one person is so great in their area they cannot wait to see their caches and publish them.   If you treat me like trash that is doing this all for you, thenI will ignore you. If you are a pain in the butt, I will look at your last.

When 30 caches come up I go through them one at a time.  If I see issues I come back to them.  If I am on my phone publishing, I will come back to problem caches later when I am at home.  If I am in a hurry, I will list the caches that are simple and easy.  That clears out my queue a little bit, and give people something to hunt for.

The goal is to do the first review of caches in 72 hours. You may see others listed, and yours may have issues.  Look at it closer. It is also possible that I may have also only reviewed 30 out of 100. Yours is still on the way.

If you have issues, you drop to the bottom of the pile.  If I find that there are problems, I leave a note.  Typcially the next day I open and go through new caches first, then go through the emails, and caches on hold.   Don't whine, complain, email hourly, text, call, IM, and post on my wall every few minutes. I go through those that have had issues one at a time.   Usually oldest to newest.

Please email me to remind me if it has taken a while.  It can get buried.  Just don't bombard me.

 

What people think annoys me that does not

Some people think these bug me.  They usually don't.

Take it to appeals

Does not bother me.  They make the rules, they can bend/break them.  Not me.  They say it is ok, then it is ok. I sometimes point people to appeals, most of the time with no luck.  I think they  believe I am offended by the idea.

Gentle Reminders

I have gone on vacations, walked away for a few days, been buried, forgot to click "watch" on a cache and see your notes.  A simple email does not bother me, and helps me get going.

Pointing out Mistakes

I have had people point to me caches where there are issues. Things that slip by me.  Sometimes they are not serious enough for me to archive, other times they are.  Thanks for letting me know.

-updated for fun- 5/16/13

 

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